Underneath
What's going on underneath #
Three things that tend to sit under the words.
It does not look like a slide or a number, and it often only surfaces as a feeling that this has been tried, which can be hard to turn into words quickly.
For some people it began with a mentor who said “tell me how it used to work”, and then listened.
Underneath, a rule can sit: “If I have seen it, others should ask me,” or “Learning ought to be handed on, not rediscovered.”
Reactions
What people often do #
- Open with “when we tried this before” and see the room cool
- Say nothing, then hear the same idea voted through
- Hold back the story, then replay it on the way home
- Take on the training work nobody else has patience for
- Edit the idea down until it sounds new
The deck
The story in 6 cards #
Six short cards, from the moment to letting go.
'Things are different now'
In the meeting in Manchester, you mention how the same problem was solved ten years ago, what worked and what didn't. A younger colleague says, 'Things are different now,' and the room moves on. Later, the new plan runs into exactly the trouble you described. Nobody connects it to what you said. You sit quietly at your desk, feeling like history nobody wants to read.
Experience should count for something
Underneath sits a rule: 'My workplace should value experience.' It sounds sensible. Years teach things that books can't. But look at what it does: it ties your sense of being useful to how others see your past. Whether you feel valued now depends on a workplace that may chase what's new, without always seeing what it could learn from people who've been there.
Why experience is hard-won
We hold it because experience is hard-won. Maybe you grew up where elders were listened to, and expected the same when your turn came. Maybe you have learned so much the hard way that you want it to help others avoid the same mistakes. Either way, wanting experience valued isn't pride. It comes from wanting to be useful. That deserves kindness, not blame.
Getting quieter in meetings
Every brushed-off story makes you a little quieter. You stop offering what you know. You feel out of step with the room. You wonder if people see you as old-fashioned. Slowly the wisdom you've built up stays locked inside, and you start to doubt it yourself, even though it keeps proving right in ways nobody seems to notice but you.
Is waiting to be valued worth it?
Ask yourself honestly: has needing them to value your experience ever made them listen more? Or has it mostly made you feel unheard? Workplaces often chase new ideas and forget to ask what came before, for reasons that may have little to do with you. Either way, their rush isn't the measure of your wisdom. Holding this rule so tightly costs you more than it gives you.
Using what you know quietly
Letting go doesn't mean your experience doesn't matter. It means your sense of its value no longer depends on others asking for it. You know what you've learned. You can use it in your own work, share it lightly when there's room, and trust it quietly. That's where some peace comes back: your years of learning stay yours, ready when they're needed.
Being pushed aside because of your age, or threatened, humiliated or frightened at work, is not a question of how a room listens; it is worth taking seriously.
The flip
The old rule, and a new one to try #
The old ruleMy workplace should value experience.
A new rule to tryI know what I've learned. I can use it quietly.
Three small days
Try it for 3 days #
- Day 1
Use one thing you learned years ago in today's work
- Day 2
Learn one new thing from a younger colleague this week
- Day 3
Think of one time your experience saved the day
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Everything this deck knows
Go deeper #
What it sounds like, where it comes from, what it costs, and other ways to see it. Every question opens a chat on it.
How it lands
What was said
The whiteboard with a familiar idea on it #
A meeting gathers round a whiteboard, and someone proposes a fix you watched get tried, adjusted and shelved some years back. The sentence moves through your head: “My workplace should value experience.”
For some people the wish is simply that what was learned the hard way should not need learning twice. It can sound modest, and it can run through a whole meeting.
When did something you had learned over the years last turn out to be exactly what was needed, and what was it?Talk about this ›
The first few seconds
A breath taken in at the board #
Some people notice a quick breath drawn in, the pen put down, a half-sentence swallowed. Others feel a slow warmth rise in the neck as the room nods along to the new plan.
The body can speak first: a hand folded over the other, a glance at the clock, a smile held in place. The measured explanation, to yourself or to a friend, tends to arrive in the lift or on the ride home.
In the last meeting like this, what did your body do first, before you decided whether to speak up?Talk about this ›
Why it lands
What was learned has value #
There is real sense in hoping that what a person has learned is taken seriously. Years leave a store of things that went wrong, things that worked and the odd shortcut nobody wrote down.
That store is invisible in a meeting. It does not look like a slide or a number, and it often only surfaces as a feeling that this has been tried, which can be hard to turn into words quickly.
What is one thing you know about this work that only came from doing it for years, and who has benefited?Talk about this ›
The voice inside
The voice that remembers the last attempt #
“I have seen this movie.” “Nobody asked what happened last time.” “Just let me finish the story.” The voice tends to speak in the middle of a presentation, when a keen colleague has just said the word “fresh”.
Some people notice the voice is partly about the plan itself and partly about wanting the long road behind it acknowledged, once, by somebody in the room.
When the voice recalls the last attempt, which part of the story does it most want heard, and by whom?Talk about this ›
Where it comes from
Where it can come from
Where the respect for experience comes from #
For some people it began with a mentor who said “tell me how it used to work”, and then listened. One person who treated a long memory as useful can set the picture for what any workplace should do.
For others it comes from a household where elders were asked before big decisions, and listening to the people who had seen more was simply how things were done. In some families, that was a mark of good manners.
Who first asked what you had learned over the years, and really wanted to hear the answer?Talk about this ›
The belief under it
The rule about what the years are for #
Underneath, a rule can sit: “If I have seen it, others should ask me,” or “Learning ought to be handed on, not rediscovered.” The first sentence is the one people hear; the rule beneath decides how each new idea gets read.
Rules like this come from valuing hard-won knowledge, which is a good thing to value. They can be looked at beside this team as it is now, with its fast tools and its different ways of finding things out.
It may trace to earlier years or it may be new.
Where does the rule still hold at work, and where does a fresh attempt serve the team in its own way?Talk about this ›
What it costs
What it costs
What swallowed stories can cost #
It can look like a useful warning kept back, a meeting left with a clenched jaw, a lunch eaten quickly to avoid the same table. Each piece small, the week full of them.
The work itself can begin to feel like a rehearsal of being unheard. The quiet pleasure of knowing one's craft is crowded by the question of who will ask, which is a lot of mind for one afternoon.
Over the last few months, which conversation about the work felt really good, and what made it so?Talk about this ›
If it stays as it is
Five years of the swallowed story #
Picture one ordinary Friday on a day when “my workplace should value experience” is loud. What is in it: the planning session, the idea that sounds like an old one, the pen turned over in the fingers? It is only a picture to look at.
Perhaps the story is kept for the corridor afterwards, a quick laugh with a colleague follows, the work is done well, and the afternoon ends with a plan for the weekend.
Nothing here needs an answer, and the picture can be set aside whenever you like. What, if anything, do you notice about it?
What else is in that Friday?Talk about this ›
Another way to see it
Another way to see it
Valued in what form? #
“Value experience” can mean being asked in the early stage, being given the hard case, being paired with a newcomer or simply being heard to the end of a sentence. Each is a different hope, and each is easier to name than the big phrase.
A story told briefly tends to travel further than one told in full, and a question like “what would you watch for?” lets a room use experience without feeling corrected. Teams differ, and some can hear it more readily than others.
If your experience had to be offered in one sentence in the next meeting, what would the sentence be?Talk about this ›
What is already there
What the workplace already gives #
Alongside the respect that did not arrive, there may be some that did: a colleague who rings to ask how a task is done, a nod when you explained a system, a mug of tea brought to your desk without comment.
Seeing one of these takes nothing from the wish to be valued more. Both can be real at the same desk on the same Tuesday.
There is no right size for the answer.
What do people here already do that shows they rate what you know?Talk about this ›
Making peace
How a room listens, and what you know #
Peace can mean the gap between the respect you hoped for and the meeting you sat in stops flavouring the whole day. Being pushed aside because of your age is not a question of how a room listens; it is worth taking seriously.
Being threatened, harassed or humiliated at work, or singled out for who you are (gender, caste, religion, colour, age, a disability or where you come from), is a different matter, and worth taking seriously.
The same is true of unpaid work, pay or papers held back, unsafe work and being frightened; going along or staying careful can be the safe choice.
Basic respect and safety at work are never “expecting too much”, for you and for them. Picture a meeting with this hope worn more lightly.
What would you do with the energy that used to go into the swallowed story, and what would you enjoy about being there?Talk about this ›
A truer sentence
A truer line for the meeting room #
Beside “My workplace should value experience”, some people keep a line like this ready: “I hoped what I have learned would be heard, and it is still worth knowing.” It does not have to win, only stand beside the old line.
A line like that can feel borrowed at first and become familiar with use. Others find a plainer wording of their own sits better, and that is fine too.
What would a truer sentence be in your own words, honest about the hope without needing the room to agree?Talk about this ›
What to let be
The story can keep for later #
Not every meeting needs a response from you before it ends. The point can be noticed, felt, and put away like a folded sheet of notes tucked into a diary, still yours, still true.
The wish to be valued for experience can stay private for as long as you like. Anything like threats, harassment, humiliation, being singled out for who you are, unpaid work, pay or papers held back, unsafe work or fear is different, and worth taking seriously; staying careful can be the safe choice.
Letting it rest for tonight does not mean it was fine, or that it is settled. It only means this evening does not need a ruling.
If it loosened
And if the grip eased, even a notch #
Try, as a picture only, the expectation a notch quieter. The wish to be valued is still there, and the story is held lightly, told in full in your own mind and enjoyed for what it is. What is the first thing that feels different?
It could be a meeting that ends without the replay, or a moment of enjoying the craft for its own sake. What would your first small thing be?
Nothing here needs saying to anyone. Whatever comes up is yours to notice. Next, a look at what making peace with this hope could mean, and what is already there.
Small things to try
Something to try
A few small things people try #
- Mentally pick out one lesson from the years that you still use daily
- Notice, in the next meeting, whether the idea or the tone stung more
- Picture the short version of a long story, in a single sentence
- Think of a colleague who values what you know, and what they do
- Notice where your craft feels respected, even briefly, in a week
Small, private and optional. Try whichever feels doable.
Pick a question
Talk it through #
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- When did something you learned over the years turn out to be just what was needed?
- What piece of know-how do you carry that you are quietly proud of?
- Who first asked what you knew and actually listened?
- If the wish to be valued for your experience eased a little, what would you notice first?
- Who here already respects what you know, and how do you see it?